[MC-8187] Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation Created: 24/Jan/13  Updated: 07/Dec/24

Status: Reopened
Project: Minecraft: Java Edition
Component/s: None
Affects Version/s: Snapshot 13w04a, 1.15.2, 20w08a, 20w13b, 20w14a, 20w15a, 20w16a, 20w17a, 20w18a, 20w19a, 20w20b, 20w21a, 20w22a, 1.16 Pre-release 1, 1.16 Pre-release 2, 1.16 Pre-release 3, 1.16 Pre-release 4, 1.16 Pre-release 5, 1.16 Pre-release 7, 1.16 Pre-release 8, 1.16 Release Candidate 1, 1.16, 1.16.1, 20w27a, 20w28a, 20w29a, 20w30a, 1.16.2 Pre-release 1, 1.16.2 Pre-release 2, 1.16.2 Release Candidate 1, 1.16.2 Release Candidate 2, 1.16.2, 1.16.3 Release Candidate 1, 1.16.3, 1.16.4 Pre-release 1, 1.16.4 Pre-release 2, 1.16.4 Release Candidate 1, 1.16.4, 20w45a, 20w46a, 20w48a, 20w49a, 20w51a, 21w03a, 1.16.5, 21w05a, 21w05b, 21w06a, 21w07a, 21w08b, 21w10a, 21w11a, 21w13a, 21w14a, 21w15a, 21w16a, 21w17a, 21w18a, 21w19a, 21w20a, 1.17 Release Candidate 2, 1.17, 1.17.1, 21w37a, 21w38a, 21w39a, 21w40a, 21w41a, 21w42a, 21w43a, 21w44a, 1.18 Pre-release 1, 1.18 Release Candidate 3, 1.18, 1.18.1, 22w03a, 22w05a, 22w06a, 1.18.2 Release Candidate 1, 1.18.2, 22w12a, 22w13a, 22w14a, 1.19 Pre-release 1, 1.19 Pre-release 3, 1.19 Release Candidate 1, 1.19 Release Candidate 2, 1.19, 1.19.1 Pre-release 2, 1.19.1, 1.19.2, 22w43a, 1.19.3, 1.19.4, 1.20, 1.20.1, 23w33a, 24w11a, 1.20.6, 1.21, 1.21.1, 24w36a, 1.21.2 Pre-Release 3, 1.21.3, 24w45a, 1.21.4
Fix Version/s: None

Type: Bug
Reporter: [Mod] Avoma Assignee: Unassigned
Resolution: Unresolved Votes: 55
Labels: jungle_sapling, spruce_sapling, tree-generation

Attachments: PNG File 2013-01-24_19.46.32.png     PNG File 2013-01-24_19.49.07.png     File 2021-12-17 13-27-25.mkv     File MC-8187.mp4     PNG File MC-8187.png     PNG File setup.png    
Issue Links:
Duplicate
is duplicated by MC-11861 2x2 Jungle Trees No Longer Grow with ... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-18177 2 by 2 jungle tree bone meal bug Resolved
is duplicated by MC-40429 Can't spawn 4x4 spruce tree if there ... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-49724 4 block trees don't grow when there i... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-112664 Growth of 2x2 jungle and spruce trees... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-114707 2x2 Spruce and Jungle trees not growi... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-131497 Giant Spruce Trees Resolved
is duplicated by MC-133611 Can't grow 2x2 spruce trees Resolved
is duplicated by MC-150730 Big Trees do not grow if there is sno... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-151951 Saplings planted next to snow don't g... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-155348 2 wide spruce wont grow if item/block... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-176235 2x2 spruce don't grow Resolved
is duplicated by MC-244699 4 wide spruce trees wont grow when th... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-245694 2x2 spruce tree is not growing Resolved
is duplicated by MC-278183 Snow layers prevent 2x2 Spruce trees ... Resolved
Relates
relates to MC-118980 2 × 2 trees required free area is lar... Open
relates to MC-112975 2 × 2 trees only check if northwester... Open
relates to MC-193318 Vines prevent double (2x2) jungle and... Open
CHK:
Confirmation Status: Confirmed
Category:
World generation
Mojang Priority: Normal
Area: Gameplay

 Description   

The Bug:

Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when surrounded by any block other than a sapling that's located to the north and/or west side of the sapling formation.

This can be anything from a torch to a snow layer, to a grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.

Steps to Reproduce:

  1. Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
  2. Apply large amounts of bone meal to the said saplings.
  3. Take note as to whether or not two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.

Observed Behavior:

The saplings will never grow into trees naturally or when bone mealed.

Expected Behavior:

The saplings would grow into trees and not be prevented by adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.



 Comments   
Comment by [Mod] Avoma [ 28/Jun/22 ]

Jack_McKalling, I believe that issue is MC-118980.

Comment by [Helper] Jack McKalling [ 28/Jun/22 ]

I also noticed that adjacent blocks are only blocking tree growth from the north and west side of the sapling formation, but not the east or south. So it doesn't have to be fully surrounded. It also doesn't matter which sapling gets applied the bone meal, all saplings in the 2x2 formation behave as if they were one single sapling with 12 adjacent sides instead of 8.

Comment by Ciaran Ainsley [ 28/Jun/22 ]

It's probably worth noting that this extends to basically any block occupying the same space, including ones which are completely transparent like grass or ferns. I suspect this is probably to keep the giant spruce trees with leaves on the bottom level from intersecting any blocks, but spruce saplings are ignored in that check anyway so I don't see why that couldn't be extended to include other blocks.

Comment by batbrain55 [ 02/Jun/22 ]

Can confirm in 1.19 RC1.

Comment by Basalt_Dragon [ 26/May/22 ]

Can confirm in 1.19 Pre-release 3.

Comment by batbrain55 [ 24/May/22 ]

Can confirm in 1.19 Prerelease 2.

Comment by [Mod] Avoma [ 03/Oct/21 ]

Can confirm this in 21w39a. Here are some extra details regarding this problem.

The Bug:

2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.

Steps to Reproduce:

  • Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
  • Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.

Observed Behavior:

2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.

Expected Behavior:

2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees even when surrounded by snow.

Comment by [Mod] ampolive [ 23/Sep/21 ]

Can confirm in 21w38a.

Comment by Faye N [ 13/Jul/21 ]

Still an issue in 1.17.1. I'd like to add that single-sapling trees of any kind will grow just fine in snow-covered places, it's just 2x2 spruce and jungle trees that can't. 2x2 dark oak does work, however.

Comment by [Mod] Avoma [ 04/Feb/21 ]

Can confirm in 21w05b.

Comment by [Mod] Avoma [ 25/Nov/20 ]

Can confirm in 20w48a.

Comment by clove [ 07/Sep/20 ]

Can confirm for 1.16.3rc1

Comment by [Mod] markderickson [ 07/Sep/20 ]

Hi! I'd like to request ownership of this report.

Comment by Michael [ 31/Jul/20 ]

It can not even handle if you have a grid of saplings (like say 8x8) or 2x2 tree to close (less an 6 block apart).

 

This in 1.16.1 singelplayer, newgen world

Comment by Rodrigo Cardoso [ 30/Mar/17 ]

My report about they not being able to grow next to carpets has been marked as a duplication of this, and there's no relation considering this started to happen only in recent versions.
I don't see how this can be marked as intended either, considering dark oak trees and 1x1 trees of all kinds grow with no problem.

Comment by atomizer [ 22/Jan/17 ]

Why exactly is this marked WAI? I don't see any devs explicitly confirming that this is intended.
Also, if we assume WAI, why doesn't dark oak have this restriction?

Comment by Fluffy89502 [ 16/Jan/14 ]

Because a single sapling center block isn't on the north-western side.

Comment by Maarten Thijs [ 24/Jan/13 ]

okay so why does this work with just a single sappling?

Comment by Tails [ 24/Jan/13 ]

There may not be any blocks adjacent to the north-western sapling, as this is considered as the center of the tree. More information can be found here..

Comment by Maarten Thijs [ 24/Jan/13 ]

glad you guys gave me 4 hours to respond...
anyway I found the issue, please reopen

Comment by Mustek [ 24/Jan/13 ]

Unable to reproduce either. If it still occurs, take screenshots and create a new ticket with them.

Comment by Tails [ 24/Jan/13 ]

Unable to reproduce. Are you sure you give them enough space to grow?

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