[MC-7908] Spawning underwater / In the middle of an (lava) ocean Created: 19/Jan/13  Updated: 16/Aug/24  Resolved: 08/May/18

Status: Resolved
Project: Minecraft: Java Edition
Component/s: None
Affects Version/s: Minecraft 1.4.7, Snapshot 13w03a, Minecraft 1.5, Minecraft 1.5.2, Minecraft 1.6.1, Minecraft 1.6.2, Minecraft 1.6.4, Minecraft 13w36a, Minecraft 13w36b, Minecraft 13w39a, Minecraft 13w39b, Minecraft 13w41a, Minecraft 13w41b, Minecraft 1.7.1, Minecraft 1.7.2, Minecraft 13w48a, Minecraft 13w48b, Minecraft 13w49a, Minecraft 1.7.3, Minecraft 1.7.4, Minecraft 1.7.5, Minecraft 14w10b, Minecraft 14w11b, Minecraft 14w26c, Minecraft 1.7.10, Minecraft 14w32a, Minecraft 14w32b, Minecraft 14w32c, Minecraft 14w32d, Minecraft 14w33a, Minecraft 14w33c, Minecraft 14w34a, Minecraft 14w34b, Minecraft 14w34c, Minecraft 14w34d, Minecraft 1.8-pre1, Minecraft 1.8-pre2, Minecraft 1.8-pre3, Minecraft 1.8.2-pre7, Minecraft 1.8.7, Minecraft 15w31a, Minecraft 15w35b, Minecraft 15w46a, Minecraft 15w50a, Minecraft 1.9 Pre-Release 1, Minecraft 1.9, Minecraft 1.10.2, Minecraft 16w38a, Minecraft 1.11.2, Minecraft 17w06a, Minecraft 1.12.2, Minecraft 18w07c
Fix Version/s: Minecraft 18w19a

Type: Bug
Reporter: Sebastian Schmidt Assignee: ProfMobius (Thomas Guimbretiere)
Resolution: Fixed Votes: 19
Labels: spawn, suffocation, underwater

Issue Links:
Cloners
is cloned by MC-273848 Players can spawn underwater again in... Resolved
Duplicate
is duplicated by MC-29843 spawn on seabed Resolved
is duplicated by MC-37538 Spawned where died Resolved
is duplicated by MC-50371 Spawn point under the see level Resolved
is duplicated by MC-59477 If spawn Lava Oceans is set to true, ... Resolved
is duplicated by MC-69784 Spawn in Lava river Resolved
is duplicated by MC-81756 Player spawn in lava Resolved
is duplicated by MC-87214 Spawning unterwater / Seed Resolved
is duplicated by MC-92715 Spawning in Lava or Water Oceans Resolved
is duplicated by MC-97335 First spawn in new world is underwater. Resolved
is duplicated by MC-98405 World spawn does not ignore Lava Resolved
is duplicated by MC-112735 Initial Spawn under water Resolved
is duplicated by MC-126699 Player Spawns in Water Resolved
Relates
relates to MC-56529 Worldborder can force player to spawn... Resolved
relates to MC-67939 Water world preset unplayable in surv... Resolved
relates to MC-2416 Suffocation/jittering/stuck when spaw... Resolved
relates to MC-241412 Player can spawn inside a cave Open
relates to MCPE-120237 Player world spawn is sometimes under... Open
relates to MC-242348 Sometimes spawnpoint will spawn playe... Reopened
relates to MC-68 Spawning in the air after creating a ... Resolved
CHK:
Confirmation Status: Confirmed

 Description   

With these seeds, you spawn under water in an ocean biome:

13
-3597953805151817340


 Comments   
Comment by Can Arslan [ 17/Feb/18 ]

Spawning in lava still possible with 1.12.1
Seed: 5581933512736969932

Comment by Galaxy_2Alex [ 26/Sep/16 ]

Some of the seeds provided no longer spawn you underwater, but "13" definitely still does.

Comment by KingSupernova [ 18/Mar/16 ]

Relates to MC-67939. A simple partial fix to both bugs would be to make a rule that if land can't be found to spawn the player on, it allows them to spawn on top of water blocks. That way they at least wouldn't drown.

Also, could the description please be updated to include a current seed?

Comment by Quinn Roundy [ 11/Dec/15 ]

Can confirm this occurs in 15w50a snapshot. Although, I am using 'Good Luck' preset and my spawn area is a small island surrounded by a lava ocean and other small islands. Nevertherless, Several times when I die (as I have not found sheep to set my spawn) I will spawn in the lava itself. Occurs in my case about 2/5 times.

Windows 10 (PC version of the game), Java 1.8

Comment by a [ 29/Jul/15 ]

As above, affects 15w31a

Comment by a [ 16/Feb/15 ]

using seed -4313310572756625660 spawned underwater in 1.8.2-pre7

Comment by a [ 16/Sep/14 ]

That's not the point though. This is here so that unsuspecting default-mode users don't get screwed.

Comment by Michael David Fontaine [ 16/Sep/14 ]

You can guarentee you will suffocate if you raise the sea level too high. It will always spawn you at the bottom of the water.

Comment by Anonymous [ 28/Aug/14 ]

Added an issue for the same reason so please author of article plus one version too:1.8 PRE3

Comment by a [ 09/Aug/14 ]

seed -4313310572756625660 spawned deep underwater on 2nd try in 14w32d.
seed -5001480595212598747 works as well.

Also in 14w33a.

Comment by a [ 13/Mar/14 ]

14w11b seed -502486041527794879 yields a spawn box that includes water deep enough to drown. I just did 5 world gens using this seed, and only the first time did I end up in the water. Settings were all default other than switching between creative/survival/hardcore.

seed -4313310572756625660 spawned me in the water too.

Comment by Kumasasa [ 08/Mar/14 ]

In MC-50371 is another seed with current versions.

Comment by Markku [ 08/Mar/14 ]

Not sure if the issue description and other older seeds are still valid tests, so I add that on one particular recreation of this seed -4542366974610774625 and version 14w10c, I spawned into a lake (the small ponds of water littering all over the places), at a spot deep enough to drown in. However, multiple other cases with that same seed has resulted in spawning at land, though near that pond.

Comment by [Mod] Ezekiel (ezfe) [ 26/Feb/14 ]

Is this still a concern in the latest Minecraft version 14w08a? If so, please update the affected versions in order to best aid Mojang ensuring bugs are still valid in the latest releases/pre-releases.

Comment by Peter Hamstra [ 06/Jan/14 ]

1.7.4
Spawned in water when world was created.

Comment by John Distler [ 13/Oct/13 ]

Confirmed in 13w41b.

Comment by John Distler [ 13/Oct/13 ]

In 13w41b, the seed, "13" has this problem.

Comment by Kajanor [ 14/Sep/13 ]

had the same
Seed: -7754467900641174952
13w37b

Comment by Jake [ 07/Sep/13 ]

I'm experiencing the samebug in Snapshot 13w36b.

Comment by Anton Sanarov [ 16/Mar/13 ]

Version 1.5.
Seed "Yugongyishan"
Does also spawn underwater.

Comment by Markku [ 19/Jan/13 ]

Sebastian's idea gave me another twist to it:

Just let the game keep looking for good spawn point as long as it takes by default, but give the player a button to force stop it ("Okay, okay, I'll swim!")

Comment by Markku [ 19/Jan/13 ]

The MC-2416 would have a different fix than this. That other bug only needs to detect it has spawned inside non-empty (and non-water) block, and seek up for air, move the spawn point up (perhaps on top of a jungle tree ).

In this issue, moving up won't solve anything, you'd still just drop into water and dive down. You won't die, though, as long as one is at the keyboard when spawning and keeps swimming.

Comment by Sebastian Schmidt [ 19/Jan/13 ]

Well, this is not MC-2416. This can be fixed by letting the player chose if he wants to continue searching for spawnpoints or if he wants to keep the "bad" spawn.

MC-2416 can be fixed by adjusting the height of the spawn point.

Comment by Anon Ymus [ 19/Jan/13 ]

They're both about spawning in "illegal" positions, even if it is somewhat of a stretch.

Comment by Markku [ 19/Jan/13 ]

Afaik, the game always tries to find dry land to spawn the player on (or at least very near). However, spawning in the middle large body of water is such a rare event that I'd leave it as an interesting challenge. Just roll a new world if not like..

In that particular seed, the game has already generated hundreds of random chunks in search of a suitable spot to spawn on, but apparently finally gives up.

(EDIT: source code tells the game does 1000 random movements from 0,0 and checks the spot for good spawn place; if all those spots are bad, the last try will be kept, no matter where it is.)

And no, its not duplicate of MC-2416 (that is about spawning inside features on dry land, this is about not finding that dry land in the first place).

Comment by Anon Ymus [ 19/Jan/13 ]

Anyways, it's a duplicate of MC-2416.

Comment by Anon Ymus [ 19/Jan/13 ]

What's the bug?

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