[MC-11165] The upward facing piston monostable is both orientational and coordinate dependant > Huge inconsistency Created: 06/Mar/13 Updated: 21/Aug/24 |
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| Status: | Reopened |
| Project: | Minecraft: Java Edition |
| Component/s: | None |
| Affects Version/s: | Snapshot 13w10a, Snapshot 13w10b, Minecraft 1.5.1, Minecraft 1.5.2, Snapshot 13w18c, Snapshot 13w19a, Minecraft 1.6.1, Minecraft 1.6.2, Minecraft 14w32a, Minecraft 1.9, Minecraft 1.10.2, Minecraft 16w43a, Minecraft 1.12, Minecraft 1.14, 20w07a, 20w08a, 20w18a, 1.16.1, 20w27a, 20w30a, 1.16.2 Pre-release 1, 1.16.2 Release Candidate 1, 1.16.2, 1.16.3 Release Candidate 1, 1.16.3, 1.16.4 Pre-release 2, 1.16.4, 20w46a, 20w51a, 1.17.1, 1.19.1 Release Candidate 2, 1.20.2 |
| Fix Version/s: | None |
| Type: | Bug | ||
| Reporter: | DicoTheRedstoner | Assignee: | Unassigned |
| Resolution: | Unresolved | Votes: | 32 |
| Labels: | experimental_redstone_fixed | ||
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| Confirmation Status: | Confirmed | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Redstone
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| Mojang Priority: | Low | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Area: | Platform | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Description |
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The upward facing piston monostable is very inconsistent. In situation 1 (Picture 1 and 2), we see that powering the lever on top powers only the piston on the right, and powering the other lever powers the other piston. In situation 2 (Picture 3 and 4), we see that powering the lever on top powers none of the 2 pistons, and powering the other lever powers the piston on the right. situation 3 (Picture 5 and 6) is identical to situation 2, the 2 pistons are just facing a different direction, and are in a different location. situation 4 (Picture 7 and 8) is identical to situation 1, one of the pistons is just facing a different direction, and are in a different location. The top of the pictures is always facing f:2(North) I really hate this bug, and I think it should be fixed by pre-release. UPDATE: EDIT: Since 14w19a, this monostable works consistently in one orientation, in the other however it is still coordinate dependant. Nice 20w18a repro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptK-7n--yYM |
| Comments |
| Comment by [Mod] Jiingy [ 21/Aug/24 ] |
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This issue is fixed in the 24w33a redstone experiment: |
| Comment by [Mod] ampolive [ 09/Jul/21 ] |
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Can confirm in 1.17.1. |
| Comment by pulpetti [ 07/Aug/20 ] |
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In 1.16.2 RC-1 |
| Comment by [Mod] markderickson [ 02/Jul/20 ] |
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Hi there! Can confirm in 20w27a. |
| Comment by [Mod] markderickson [ 27/Jun/20 ] |
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Still present in 1.16.1. |
| Comment by 闫懋杰 [ 23/Feb/20 ] |
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confirmed still in 20w08a |
| Comment by [Mod] NeunEinser [ 23/Jul/17 ] |
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Can confirm for 1.12 |
| Comment by [Mojang] Panda [ 30/Oct/16 ] |
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I can confirm 16w43a. |
| Comment by [Mod] Michael Wobst [ 29/Oct/16 ] |
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Is this still an issue in the most recent versions (currently that is 1.10.2, or 16w43a) of Minecraft? If so, please update the affected versions and help us keeping this ticket updated from time to time. If you are the owner/reporter of this ticket, you can modify the affected version(s) yourself. |
| Comment by [Mojang] Panda [ 26/May/16 ] |
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torabi dicotheredstoner I can confirm that it is caused by the update order. Depending on if the piston in front or the one below get updated first the circuit behaves different. The question is: What order would be best? I think it would make sense to keep the horizontal directions in the same order they have been before to minimize the things that would break. I also don't see any advantage changing it. No matter how you change it, it would break some things that depend on update orders. They would be fixable though. I made a mod that allows to set the update order with a command (E.g. /updateorder west east north south down up). |
| Comment by DicoTheRedstoner [ 20/Mar/16 ] |
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Sorry, yes this is still a concern in the current version, however it has become slightly more stable. The preferred solution for me would be to make it not power any pistons, but still power repeaters. Nearly every redstone contraption is made to not rely on unreliable bugs in the game, to ensure that it is not coordinate dependant, random, or direction dependant. I know that this way of fixing it doesn't make much sense, but now you know why I prefer it, and I'm sure you can see my point. |
| Comment by user-f2760 (Inactive) [ 18/Mar/16 ] |
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No response for over a year. |
| Comment by Galaxy_2Alex [ 25/Oct/14 ] |
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Is this still a concern in the current Minecraft version 1.8.1 Prerelease 3 / Launcher version 1.5.3 or later? If so, please update the affected versions in order to best aid Mojang ensuring bugs are still valid in the latest releases/pre-releases. |
| Comment by [Mod] Torabi [ 07/Aug/14 ] |
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According to a comment on this video, this is caused by the order of the block updates:
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| Comment by DicoTheRedstoner [ 12/May/14 ] |
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This is now consistent in one orientation, in the other orientation it is still coordinate dependant. |
| Comment by Eric R [ 09/Sep/13 ] |
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Can confirm for 1.6.2. |